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Jack Miton
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:21:00 -
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:55:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Blobbing has been and always will be a thing in eve so at the end of the day, all we can do as individuals is deal with it.
What is not under our control is the implementation of new content. I have heard lots of fantastic suggestions for ways in which ccp could improve wormhole space (roaming sleeper, C7 wormholes, multiple statics in some c4-c6, more attackable structure, ect.) but CCP do nothing. All they do is fix things that should have been that way from the start (e.g. changing subsystems at a pos).
Now CCP are talking about adding new space so if you are 100% happy with wormhole space, you are in luck because you can bet your ass wormholes are going to be ignored from now on anyway.
You know Rek, if there was an award for missing the point, you'd have to buy a bigger house just so that you can fit all your awards in your spare rooms.
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Posted - 2014.01.08 01:19:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:I understand where you are coming from but you have to understand that people will naturally want to be the biggest and most powerful because it's their nature.
this is only true for people that are lazy.
I'd MUCH rather be good on my own than irrelevant in a blob. every time, not even close.
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Rek Seven wrote:If you believe the OP is right and we should all arrange fights and keep our numbers to a minimum, then you fail to understand basic wormhole PVP and human nature... And if you think the answer to more fights is for people not to blob the upstart corps in the vein hope that they will one day grow to be a competitor, you're deluded.
let me try spell it out one last time.
it isnt about arranged fights or keeping numbers small or anything game related. It's about mentality and attitude.
you, and others, keep saying there's no conflict in WHs, no reason to fight. well, youre wrong.
i can't make is any clearer for you. youre wrong, because people like me and the op and others keep telling you that there are conflict drivers, that there are reasons to fight and that WHs are just fine the way they are.
if you dont have any drive to pvp in WHs then why are you living in WHs? and i'm being serious with this question.
why live in space you dont like and clearly dont enjoy being in?
If i hated WHs as much as you clearly do I would have moved out years ago and gone done something else.
i think you really need to consider if you want to be here. if not, that's fine. wspace is definitely NOT for everyone, im not saying it is, but it provides a very unique gaming environment that you seem very eager to make closer to kspace.
people like you saying there's no reason to do anything in Whs or people like herrbert saying scanning is boring and that WHs should be anoms doesnt help wspace at all.
the best case scenario is people just ignore you, the worst is that CCP listen to you and ruin Whs for those of us who actually like them.
PS: hoping that smaller corps one day 'grow up to be a competitor' is exactly the wrong attitude im talking about. Ive met many really good small corps and likewise many really awful large corps. size has very little to do with quality and in WHs space, size past a certain point only adds chaff.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:23:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Commas are the new period.
In all seriousness, if more people worried less about supposed "player rules" and do whatever you want, you'd have more fun. I say if you are a small entity, find some more small entities and do joint ops in deeper wh space. That way you have the people to shoot anything you come across. FUN FOR ALL! or join bobisgreat and meet other players and blow **** up in null :D
please stop posting about NS in the WH forums. ktnx.
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Posted - 2014.01.10 04:47:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:HerrBert wrote:Jack Miton wrote:please stop posting about NS in the WH forums. ktnx. make me Oh look... conflict driver.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:26:00 -
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Duke Wendo wrote:What is there in W-space to fight over? Unless there is bad blood between people in alliances, there really is little point.
There are so many w-space systems, there really is plenty for everyone.
out of interest, do you feel there are things to fight over in kspace?
if so, what are they?
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Posted - 2014.01.14 05:46:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Duke Wendo wrote:What is there in W-space to fight over? Unless there is bad blood between people in alliances, there really is little point.
There are so many w-space systems, there really is plenty for everyone. out of interest, do you feel there are things to fight over in kspace? if so, what are they? Moons, jump bridges, ratting space, industrial systems, stations, thats just off the top of my head. There are a lot of things kspacers fight over.
well sure, i know these are all things kspacers seek to achieve but does anyone really like grinding sov in NS? i dont remember ever hearing from a nullseccer (or otherwise) that they enjoy shooting structures for months at a time to expand their space.
in fact, ive heard the opposite a LOT.
what i hear from kspacers is that they like killing ships, they like disrupting people's plans, they hate group X so the love shooting them ect.
i think you'll find that what nullseccers actually do enjoy is the actual fighting, no matter what the goals are.
in WH space we just cut the BS and just go after the fighting with no need for an arbitrary reason to fight. *shrug* at least that's what I do and I know many who do the same.
in the end, isnt more space in NS is just a means to get more isk so that you can fund PVP?
well, in WH space isk isnt an issue so we dont need to grind other people's crap to get it.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 10:26:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:I know this thread isn't intended to discuss wormhole conflict drivers but here's an example that wouldn't involve the possibility of CCP messing the existing mechanics up. C7 Wormholes* Only accessible through C6 wormholes * Create an incentive for people to move to C6 space * Creates a reason for people to fight over wormhole systems * Introduces new content and gameplay to wormhole space It's just an example of something CCP could do that doesn't doesn't cause people to instantly spit their dummy out whenever they hear the term, conflict driver... So maybe we can all get over ourselves now and start to discuss things like rational grown ups now? ... No?! 
isnt there an elaborately named section of the forums where people can post new features and ideas?
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